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Arūpadhammavavatthānavagga Analysis of Formless Dhammas Chapter

4. BrahmalokapaƱha Question on the Brahma World

Rājā āha—The king asked,

ā€œbhante nāgasena, kÄ«vadÅ«ro ito brahmalokoā€ti? ā€œVenerable Nāgasena, how far away is it from here to the Brahma world?ā€

ā€œDÅ«ro kho, mahārāja, ito brahmaloko kūṭāgāramattā silā tamhā patitā ahorattena aį¹­į¹­hacattālÄ«sayojanasahassāni bhassamānā catÅ«hi māsehi pathaviyaṁ patiį¹­į¹­haheyyÄā€ti. ā€œSo far, your majesty, that if a rock the size of a peaked-roof building had fallen from there, and falling at the speed of eighty-four thousand yojanas per day, it would take four months to land on the earth.ā€

ā€œBhante nāgasena, tumhe evaṁ bhaṇathaā€”ā€œVenerable sir, you say thus,

ā€˜seyyathāpi balavā puriso samiƱjitaṁ vā bāhaṁ pasāreyya, pasāritaṁ vā bāhaṁ samiƱjeyya; ā€˜Just as a strong man might stretch out his bent arm or bend his stretched arm,

evameva iddhimā bhikkhu cetovasippatto jambudÄ«pe antarahito brahmaloke pātubhaveyyā’ti etaṁ vacanaṁ na saddahāmi, evaṁ atisÄ«ghaṁ tāva bahÅ«ni yojanasatāni gacchissatÄ«ā€ti. in the same way a bhikkhu with psychic powers who has attained mastery over his mind could disappear from JambudÄ«pa and appear in the Brahma world.’ This I do not believe that one might go so quickly over so many hundreds of yojanas.ā€

Thero āha—The elder said,

ā€œkuhiṁ pana, mahārāja, tava jātabhÅ«mÄ«ā€ti? ā€œWhere then, your majesty, is the place of your birth?ā€

ā€œAtthi, bhante, alasando nāma dÄ«po, tatthāhaṁ jātoā€ti. ā€œThere is, venerable sir, an island called Alasanda, there I was born.ā€

ā€œKÄ«va dÅ«ro, mahārāja, ito alasando hotÄ«ā€ti? ā€œHow far away, your majesty, is Alasanda from here?ā€

ā€œDvimattāni, bhante, yojanasatānÄ«ā€ti. ā€œAbout 200 yojanas, venerable sir.ā€

ā€œAbhijānāsi nu tvaṁ, mahārāja, tattha kiƱcideva karaṇīyaṁ karitvā saritÄā€ti? ā€œDo you not know, your majesty, of some business that you have completed there and now remember?ā€

ā€œÄ€ma, bhante, sarāmÄ«ā€ti. ā€œYes, venerable sir, I remember.ā€

ā€œLahuṁ kho tvaṁ, mahārāja, gatosi dvimattāni yojanasatānÄ«ā€ti. ā€œIndeed, so quickly you have gone about two hundred yojanas, your majesty!ā€

ā€œKallosi, bhante nāgasenÄā€ti. ā€œYou are clever, venerable Nāgasena.ā€

BrahmalokapaƱho catuttho. Question on the Brahma World fourth
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